Alabama National Championship Myths

12 National Championships? … The Real Story I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. So, here's the truth about Alabama's National Championships.


Credit is given where credit is due. To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department.

Here’s a rundown:1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941.

Another incredible retroactive NC. The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.

1926 National Championship - Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship - The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls!

Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933-1934 National Championship - Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!


1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC.

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.

1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.

You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly.

The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming twelve.

Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.Bama…legends in their own minds! References:http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I-A_national_football_championshiphttp://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?page=communityfbip

Editors Note: For more background on this topic check out A look at how national champions are named.

Also, here is our 2010 Alabama vs Texas Preview.

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Dec 16, 2009
More Perspective on Retroactive NC Selections
by: Mo Johnson

Hi, thanks for your thorough review of Alabama National Championships. However, I think you will find the support for Alabama NC's to be stronger than you think. Even the retroactive selections. Bottom line is retroactive selections are common; Alabama's were credible; there is no Alabama conspiracy afoot.

Check out A Look at How National Champions Are Named.

Dec 16, 2009
25 Total Major College National Championship Year(s)
by: Crimson Reign

Try this out:

CFB Data Warehouse.

Dec 16, 2009
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by: CT

"The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously."
I understand that your point of view may be somewhat biased so I won't get into a trifling argument with you, but the NCAA does not officially recognize National Championship claims.

Dec 17, 2009
Bama football
by: Anonymous

I hope this article made you feel better, but at the end of the day Alabama has more National Championships and SEC championships than any other SEC school. It doesn't really matter if its 3,6,12 or 25 National Championships because The University of Alabama is the most recognized school in the south. Watch out the men in black helicopters are watching.

RTR!

Dec 17, 2009
12 and Counting
by: Anonymous

however you slice we still have a hell of lot more than the rest of you douchebags....oh we will have one more "undisputed" one come January 7th.....

Dec 18, 2009
Try this page...
by: Anonymous

I thought this to be funny... to all of you barners...

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/auburn/national_champs.php

Jan 07, 2010
Love it !
by: Caitlin!

This basically shuts up a lot of Alabama fans. I, as a die hard Notre Dame fan, find this HILARIOUS! Sure, they claim it all these, but the truth comes out a little at a time. Notre Dame went 8-1 with Bama. Technically Notre Dame has the most NC's in the country. They won 3 UPI titles since 1950.
Notre Dame generally is considered to have earned 11 consensus national titles (1924-29-30-43-46-47-49-66-73-77-88). But there have been 19 seasons in which Notre Dame has qualified as a national champion from at least one legitimate poll, with all teams receiving national championship mention and their individual selectors noted.
But that's beside the point and I find myself rambling on about. But it's okay. Mark Ingram might have got the Heisman, but Colt McCoy just won All- American Player of the Year! Hook 'em Horns!

Jan 08, 2010
THINGS HAS CHANGED
by: Tim Farmer

At that time the National Champion was awarded before the bowl game, The bowl game was just a extra game for the teams seniors, Since things was different then does that mean you can take National championship away? Let ma ask you this? Alabama just won the 2009 National Championship. When we do go to a playoff, and we will, Will this one count? Judging by the way you describe things it wont! at that time teams could split a nc by having polls choosing two different teams as #1 as Alabama did several times. would you claim that nc as Alabama did? Sure you would.FACT IS ALABAMA JUST WON THERE 13TH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ITS KILLING YOU,,, LET IT GO. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO!!!!

Jan 11, 2010
Claim it on the field, not in the politics!
by: AlwaysForBama!

Alabama has to earn their championships! Unlike, Notre Dame and Michigan State who shared the 1966 championship due to 'sports politics'. We need a playoff system so teams can win it on the field!

Sep 29, 2010
AUBURN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
by: Anonymous

How many does Auburn have anyway just wondering?

Editor's Note: The answer is 3 per

How Many National Championships Does Alabama and Auburn Have?

Dec 10, 2010
Oh Mr. Farmer, I'm sorry.
by: Christopher Garrison

The argument made in this article would be that any of these NCs won in a BCS or one-poll system awarded in that year would stick. So Alabama's 2009 season is a forever-stamp. YOU GUYS ARE SO CUTE WHEN YOU GET ALL WORKED UP! War Eagle, dumbass.

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