Congrats! but misleading

by pac-10 fan

Just like the Big 10, the Pac-10 would only allow the champion to play in the Rose bowl. Everyone else had to stay home. This is why the Pac-10 bowl appearances are so low.

Furthermore, you are mistaken when you stated that the "conference affiliation" helped the pac-10. The winning percentage of the pac-10 went down when you calculate it.


Now, I do agree that the SEC is a tough conference but not tougher than any other in regards from top to bottom. But I do agree that they have better top tier teams. However, many of your teams are overrated and stay in polls longer than other teams in other conferences. This year Georgia, ranked #1 and Tenn, ranked high were not top tier teams.

The reason why I say this is look at your records when you come out West. It is much easier for a team to travel from East to West than it is traveling from West to East.

Georgia did ok against Ariz St. who was a terrible team in the pac-10. And Tenn lost to a UCLA team that was down to its 3rd string QB. But then you have the UCLA getting killed by BYU and Oregon ST. getting killed by Penn St.

It's all about who you play. And this is where I lose respect for the SEC. Come on the Citadel and I don't know how many A&M teams. SEC Teams put up 60 or 70 points and claim greatness.

At least a team like USC goes out to the east coast a plays teams and destroy them. Since 03' they have gone out and played virginia tech when they were ranked, auburn [ranked with ronnie brown & cadillac and their defense, arkansas w/mcfadden, virginia 08', even florida st in 97'-98', nebraska..

If the SEC claims to be the best, then go play the best during the season, and go travel to their house and then let's see how good they are. That gives you better gauge to measure teams.

Even though Tenn has been down, i give them credit for going traveling out west to play Cal and UCLA 07'-08'. LSU with Russell barely beat an ASU team who was mediocre with a last second hail mary. If your teams would go out play good non-conference games, then people will give you guys more respect.

You guys have better records and become bowl eligible because you throw the Citadel and other weak teams on schedules that secure victories and ratings. Teams in our conference may not look good because they play everyone in the conference and their non-conference scheduling is tougher than the SEC.

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Jan 26, 2009
That was a quality post
by: Anonymous

That was a quality post

Oct 23, 2009
Not making the cut
by: Anonymous

I have been having this debate for over 20 years.. PAC-10 or SEC.. where do I begin...

Let's start with the almighty SEC (chuckles). Why does a Conference need to split into two divisions North and South. We will take a by the numbers approach. 12 Team in the SEC. When you split 12 in half you have two groups of 6. Now the SEC is only playing 5 Conference games until SEC Title game. only three teams (at best) in each division can be called a quality or top tier team. That accounts for five games.. now the SEC schedules powder puff non-conference games to pad their stats and get style points for beating an Ivy League team or a Sunbelt Confernce team. Who does that? The SEC that's who. When was the last time anyone was scared to Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mississippi and Mississippi State or even Arkansas in a game of Football? I just wiped out half of the SEC power house Conference. Now these programs make up some of the elite basketball teams of America but Football... I don't think so.

Let's talk PAC-10.. when PAC-10 is mentioned people only think of USC Trojans. Now let's take a look at this conference. 10 teams they play everyone in the conference, USC has a yearly date with OHIO State and Notre Dame. Always facing a dangerous and usually ranked Cal, UCLA, Oregon a nd Oregon State team. That is already five games that will be played against nationally ranked teams year in and year out. They also play every team in their conference. Being a Conference Champion usually means you have beaten everyone in your conference, not half!

Since the late 1860s Ivy League Schools like Yale, Princeton and Harvard won NCAA National titles. In 1901 Michigan broke into the 'Ship with a win over Stanford. Pac-10 first 'ship was in 1920 five years before the SECs first 'ship. Overall the PAC 10 has won 15 National Championships to spread over five teams and the SEC has won 17 spread over five teams also. The difference is that the PAC 10 does split it Conference to dilute the talent pool.

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