Alabama Football History is Overrated

by Dan
(Florida)

I disagree. I believe Notre Dame is the best. For starters, Notre Dame, not Alabama, can legitimately lay claim to the most national championships (most sources attribute Notre Dame with the most). Notre Dame is typically attributed with 13 consensus national championships and can possibly lay claim to 2 more, while Alabama is given 10.

Moreover, Notre Dame has the second highest winning percentage of all time, is tied with USC for most Heismann winners, has the most players and coaches in the college football hall of fame (42), and the most All-Americans (178).

In terms of win percentage among coaches, the coaches with the highest and second highest win percentage both coached at Notre Dame (Knute Rockne and Frank Leahy). Notre Dame is second to USC in terms of players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

How is the Alabama-Auburn rivalry the greatest rivalry? It certainly is not greater the Ohio State-Michigan. I understand the Notre Dame-USC is viewed as being as great as Ohio State-Michigan, but there are more national championships between the two schools than any other rivalry (22).

Alabama and Auburn only have 11 between the two schools. Moreover, the Notre Dame-USC rivalry accounts for some of the most viewed games in history, in terms of tv ratings.

Its hard to say that Alabama has an unmatched football tradition. I'm sure Alabama has a great tradition, but I believe it is matched by Notre Dame.

Although I will admit that Notre Dame's bowl record stinks, but this is due mainly to the fact that the football program hasn't been so hot recently and hasn't won a bowl game since 93. (Alabama hasn't been too great recently either)

Alabama has NO Heisman winners. Not a sign of the greatest program. Moreover, Alabama CANNOT lay claim to a national title in 73. They lost the Sugar Bowl to Notre Dame. They lost the Orange Bowl in 1964. How can a program claim titles in seasons in which they lost their bowl game?

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Oct 03, 2008
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Alabama vs Notre Dame
by: Josh

I can agree on some things that Notre Dame may claim rights to over Alabama, but as far as anyone saying the Alabama/Auburn game aka "Iron Bowl" is not the greatest rivalry, then they should think again.

I don't care how many national championships Ohio St. and Michigan divide. They do not divide an ENTIRE STATE! This game is talked about every day of the year!

How often does a Michigan fan have to put up with a Ohio St. fan through the year? Or vice versa? Yeah maybe some here and there, but not in every town or city in the entire state! Nor in Ohio.

In every town, city, office, shcool, business, there is Alabama and Auburn fans talking of the much anticipated Iron Bowl game in November. So, does this happen in Michigan or Ohio? NO WAY!!

Oct 13, 2008
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Heisman doesn't mean much
by: Anonymous

WHO CARES ABOUT THE HEISMAN!

Most of the guys end up sucking in the NFL anyways so it doesn't really mean much.
Just to show you how little it means here is a top 10 list of College players put in the NFL Hall of Fame:

Southern California (11)
Notre Dame (10)
Michigan (7)
Alabama (6)
Illinois (6)
Minnesota (6)
Ohio State (6)
Oregon (6)
Syracuse (6)
Penn State (5)

Look the team with ZERO Heismans is in 4th...amazing.

Nov 15, 2008
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Tired of Bama Bashers
by: abrellbama

I am tired of sportswriters and bama haters saying that Al. is overrated. Al knows how to get the job done. As for Heisman Trophy Winners, now those are way overrated. The '92 game was a prime example. Miami's quarterback looked like a high school player in that game, no heisman trophy winner. Everyone knows that Bama does not push the heisman. We have had such great atheletes as Joe Namath, Kenny Stabler, Cornelius Bennett, etc. None of them won the heisman but they were the best players in their time. It takes a team to win and lose games, not one person. The history books show us with 12 NC but we should have been NC at least 15 times, so your ND-USC theory is bashed. Bama never gets the respect they deserve, but that is OK. We get the titles instead.

Jun 06, 2009
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Alabama OVERRATER
by: The Dog Barketh

I moved to Alabama 12 years ago. 90% of the Alabama fans know nothing about college football. Most of them could not name 5 starters on the team. Alabama football is TRAILER TRASH! The only thing they have more of than any other team in the country is CHEATING VIOLATIONS. Nobody wants to coach there thats why they had to give Saban all that money.

I'm not an Auburn fan but when they play each other I say War Dam Eagle. My favorite team in college football is anybody that plays Alabama. Alabama just wishes they would have ever had a coach like Knute Rockne, Bobby Bowden, Woody Hayes or Joe Paterno because Bryant was not in their league.

Jun 29, 2009
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Best FootBall Teams 1869-2008
by: Bama Football Fan

The Top 5 Best Football Teams in the history of the game below.

Rank Program Won Lost Tied Rating
1 Notre Dame 831 284 42 266.909
2 Michigan 872 295 36 263.617
3 Ohio State 808 306 53 261.411
4 Alabama 807 307 44 260.957
5 Southern Cal 765 303 54 258.083

The above record speaks for itself. All the Teams in the above list are College Football's Elite. None are Overrated the above Programs are where the other Schools want to be but never will it takes Tradition and Class.

Jun 30, 2009
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The Dog Barketh
by: Anonymous

Your an Idiot! Bobby Bowden! Come on the FSU Alumni is trying to run him outta town? Coach Bryant could of had his playbook on a buisness card to beat Bobby Bowden? And since you dont know anything about football, Alabama is where Bobby Bowden dreamed of coaching..... Your just another BAMA HATER, ROLL TIDE!!

Jul 02, 2009
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Dan's a moron
by: Alan

Alabama can't claim 1964? Why? Did the AP try to take it away? No.

Oklahoma claims 1950, but Oklahoma lost its bowl game in 1950 to Bear Bryant's 11-1 Kenucky team. I don't see you arguing about that one!!!!!!!

In 1966 Notre Dame went 9-0-1 and played for a tie instead of a win. Alabama, the preseason #1, went 11-0 and crushed Nebraska 34-7 in a bowl? Why aren't you arguing for that one, either????

USC claims 1939, but USC went 8-0-2. Truth is you just don't like Alabama. Get over it.

Jul 31, 2009
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"Dan from Flori-DUHH"
by: Anonymous

First off let me just say hats off to them gators.

Now back to buisness RRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL
TTTTTTIIIIIIIDDDDDDDEEEEE RRRRRRROOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!
While I enjoy A good debate every now and then,
I think you can roll out back to the swamp and shut up. I do slightly agree with you that Notre Dame is a little ahead of U A as we have lost to them 5 times out of 6. But U S C is the most overated team there is and Ill say it right now
U S C sucks!!We hold the record there 5 to 2.

Second,I love all college football, but If you don't think that the SEC has the Best Conference
just remember we are third in the nation for national titles.No hard feelings ,just one FOOTBALL fan to another. ROLL TIDE!!!!!!

Aug 25, 2009
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one big problem
by: Anonymous

The one thing that stood out is how many people (in alabama) actually think anyone cares about the alabama - auburn rivalry. Why is it the best? It divides a state? Who cares? Although alabama has a good program no one has ever accused auburn of being an elite program. Just because theyre close doesn't make it any better than kansas-kansas st., Miss. st.-ole miss, or usc-ucla! You don't hear them screaming best rivalry.

Best rivalry means for the longest time the winner of the game either won a title, or won a shot at the title. Only 3 qualify. Ohio St.-Michigan, Nebraska-Oklahoma, and USC-Notre Dame. Truth is, the best rivalry in the SEC is Florida Georgia.

Aug 29, 2009
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Perspective on the greatness of the rivalry
by: Anonymous

I attended the U of A in the early/mid 80's (during the Cornelius Bennet, Mike Shula, Dan Perkins years). What I see missing from the talk of the Alabama/Auburn rivalry is the level of hate it embodies. And it's year-long, not just on game day. This rivalry pops up continuously when you're in public in Alabama. Someone is always liable to drop a comment about it one way or the other. College football is about the only world-class thing the state can really project proudly to the rest of the country. It's deeply personal to people there. I don't think you can say that about Michigan or California, and I think it's what makes that rivalry so fierce.

Sep 06, 2009
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To the Alabama Haters
by: Chris Rolls with the Tide

First off I get so sick of people who take the time out to jump on any SEC or any page pertaining to Alabama and say "ITS A BUNCHA REDNECKS, THEY DONT KNOW THEIR FOOTBALL, BAMA SUCKS! THEY DIDNT WIN 12 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!" Come on now. I dont care where in the country you go and what conference you watch play there is always the fans out there that act like total idiots!!

Yes I'm a huge Bama fan. Yes we do have fans that make the other fans look stupid. Thats how it is at any college. Been to many games and been around a lot of fans from opposing teams and you will notice most any have the total drunken fan that makes a total ass of themself.

Another thing this whole DEBATE about Bama not really having 12 national titles. OK SPORTS MUSEUMS i've been in even claim Alabama has 12 national championships! Next is sayin Alabama sucks. I get so sick of hearing people say that.

Either way if we were to stomp any teams ass people out there will always come up with why we won and theyll so oh well see that team had a bad season thats why. RIGHT!(BEAT DOWN IN TTOWN, 36-0) Anyways, I also hear people say well BEAR BRYANT was an idiot and an overrated coach and wish he was Lou Holtz and Bobby Bowden and so and so.

So funny how people who cant stand Alabama hate on our Tradition of keeping Paul Bear Bryant alive considering Bobby Bowden always wanted to coach at Bama and as I recall Lou Holtz once said before playing Bama all his players on his team wanted the Bears autograph and to meet him. Then I once read a few people say the Bear was a segregationist? Wow thats funny considering him and George Wallace butted heads because the Bear wanted black players on his team and Wallace didn't like that.

Bear brought black players to his team to play and a reporter asked about the black players and the Bear simply said acted as if he didnt see color. they were as much part of the team as a white player.

One last thing, look at all the Hall of Famers we made. The Heisman is great and all but seriously many Heisman winners have left college and didnt do much of anything later on in the NFL. I have respect for other colleges and conferences but just simply get sick of Bama always gettin bashed about if we WIN anything.

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Sep 06, 2009
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Submitted by: Chris Rolls with the Tide

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First off I get so sick of people who take the time out to jump on any SEC or any page pertaining to Alabama and say "ITS A BUNCHA REDNECKS, THEY DONT KNOW THEIR FOOTBALL, BAMA SUCKS! THEY DIDNT WIN 12 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!" Come on now. I dont care where in the country you go and what conference you watch play there is always the fans out there that act like total idiots!! Yes I'm a huge Bama fan. Yes we do have fans that make the other fans look stupid. Thats how it is at any college. Been to many games and been around a lot of fans from opposing teams and you will notice most any have the total drunken fan that makes a total ass of themself. Another thing this whole DEBATE about Bama not really having 12 national titles. OK SPORTS MUSEUMS i've been in even claim Alabama has 12 national championships! Next is sayin Alabama sucks. I get so sick of hearing people say that. Either way if we were to stomp any teams ass people out there will always come up with why we won and theyll so oh well see that team had a bad season thats why. RIGHT!(BEAT DOWN IN TTOWN, 36-0) Anyways, I also hear people say well BEAR BRYANT was an idiot and an overrated coach and wish he was Lou Holtz and Bobby Bowden and so and so. So funny how people who cant stand Alabama hate on our Tradition of keeping Paul Bear Bryant alive considering Bobby Bowden always wanted to coach at Bama and as I recall Lou Holtz once said before playing Bama all his players on his team wanted the Bears autograph and to meet him. Then I once read a few people say the Bear was a segregationist? Wow thats funny considering him and George Wallace butted heads because the Bear wanted black players on his team and Wallace didn't like that. Bear brought black players to his team to play and a reporter asked about the black players and the Bear simply said acted as if he didnt see color. they were as much part of the team as a white player. One last thing, look at all the Hall of Famers we made. The Heisman is great and all but seriously many Heisman winners have left college and didnt do much of anything later on in the NFL. I have respect for other colleges and conferences but just simply get sick of Bama always gettin bashed about if we WIN anything.

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Sep 08, 2009
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Bear is the Greatest!
by: Roll Tide #13 in 09

To anyone who doubts the Bear's greatness....What is the name of the Coach of the Year Award in college football? I believe it is the Paul Bear Bryant Award! Named after the greatest College football coach the world has ever known...although Bowden and Jo Pa do put up a good fight.

"I'd like people to remember me as a winner, cuz i ain't never been nuthin but a winner."- Paul "Bear" Bryant

Oct 10, 2009
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army vs navy isn't considered as a great rivalry?
by: Anonymous

Roll Tide!

Um, i know you guys are all talking about these rivalries, but haven't read anything about army vs. navy. If thats not one of the great rivalries in football, i dont know what is.

Peace.

Oct 31, 2009
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Rammer Jammer
by: Anonymous

I agree with what some of the others have said. All of the top programs deserve so much respect for what they accomplished. I think data and stats only mean so much. Heisman only means so much I mean look at some of our players that have gone to the next level and shown how good they are: Bart Starr, Joe Namath etc.

I'm not surprised that we don't have a Heisman when you think about the fact that QBs get most of the love and we have predominately been a running team that used multiple backs. Also they Bear is at least one of if not the Greatest coaches of all time but I don't think we can let his shadow block out what Frank Thomas and Wallace Wade did for our Program.

I can see what that other guy was saying about fans but I know a bunch of Auburn Fans that are the same way. The problem is that Alabama is getting back to dominance and Auburn is in a decline so "Bama Fans" are coming out of the wood works and the "Aub Fans" are going dormant.

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